Pale Yellow Dun 1839

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Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by Roadkill » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:28 pm

My thanks to Andrew Herd for this fly from Thomas Hofland's The British Angler's Manual, 1839.

Hook-Dai Riki 070 #12
Thread-Pearsall's Primrose Yellow
Body-Marten Fur
Hackle-Starling

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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by ronr » Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:15 pm

Bill from what part of the starling did you get the white feather...
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by Roadkill » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:31 pm

Ron,

It is a light gray underwing feather. The text calls for 'The lightest part of a feather from a young starling's wing." I have no idea of the age of my starling. ;)
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by Old Hat » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 am

Great looking dirty yellow pattern. This color is good for all kinds of bugs.
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by letumgo » Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:15 am

Bill - Is that martin fur dyed?
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by Roadkill » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:58 pm

Ray the dubbing came off the most yellow part of the piece of tanned Marten hide I have (probably part of a coat collar).
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I suspect the belly fur would have been more appropriate for the fly. The tips of the fur are yellow but the roots fade to a creamy tan.My dubbing looks more of a tan when blended but lightly dubbed on the silk the eye (and camera) is fooled into seeing something more in line with the idea from the original.

Here is the text from Herd's book Trout Fly Patterns 1496-1916 the History of flyfishing Volume Two

Pale Yellow Dun
Wings: The lightest part of a feather from a young starling's wing.
Body:Yellow Mohair, or martin's pale yellow fur, tied with yellow silk.
Hook: No. 12
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by Roadkill » Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:25 pm

Here is an updated version I will tie at the 2023 Pacific Northwest Expo...

ImageRIMG9222 by William Lovelace, on Flickr

I am using the same Marten dubbing but have subbed UTC 70 Yellow for the original silk and Whiting Natural Dun Hen cape feathers are a very good color match for the Starling and much easier to use.
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by Solitaryflyguy » Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:39 am

That’s a great tie ! I particularly like the wispiness of hair fibers coming off the body, It’s got PMD all over it.
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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by wsbailey » Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:10 am

Reading through Hofland’s book it appears to me that all of his flies are winged except for a couple of palmers. The illustration quality is poor but number 7 is the fly in question.

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Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Post by DUBBN » Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:48 pm

Bill, bring a box full of those flies to Western Colorado. Size 16 thru 12. Nymphing to swinging, you will not be disappointed .
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