Pattern question

[bearbutt]

Is anyone familiar with this pattern?



They came out of a A&F Wheatley swing leaf box--with flies from the 1930s -1950s or so. I'm stumped on this one. Any thoughts?

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[letumgo]

I’ve tried searching Terry Hellekson, Ray Bergman, Helen Shaw, and Mary Orvis Marbury books, but no luck so far. Will keep searching.

Distinctive features:
Orange floss body (perhaps silk or buttonhole twist)
White floss center band
White or cream hackle
Primrose silk tying thread
Buttonhole thread
White hackle tail

Fun puzzle Joe.

[bearbutt]

Thanks, Ray. All of the flies in the box were very well tied--these were in the same row as the mystery flies:



I'm thinking UK-something--but we will see.

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[Mike62]

It took a second or two, but I finally noticed just how long the tails are on those flies. I love a good mystery...

[Niveker]

Lil' Dorothy immediately jumps to my mind, save for the 'hot spot' and tail.

There is a small mayfly nymph I sometime find in my home river with a distinct white band in the center, but otherwise a tan or dark brown.

[bearbutt]

Thanks, Kevin--yeah, those Dorotheas! LOL.

I always find lots of Frankenflies and quirky stuff in old boxes--but these stopped me in my tracks because they were well tied, consistently tied, and the other flies in the box were likewise very well done--so there was something deliberate about them, which made me think somebody knew what they were doing. And I'm curious to know what the hell it is.

[chugbug]

Looks like a creamsicle!... The trademark on the creamsicle dates back to 1937. Maybe a tyer who really, really liked them?

https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfiel ... 6rgdh.2.22

[DOUGSDEN]

Joe,
Do you have anymore info on the box itself? Who owned it? What part of the country? What country? Sometimes this helps to narrow down the possibilities!
Dougsden

[bearbutt]

LOL about the creamsicle.

Doug, the box came from Quebec--which as you say does give a context (and which might explain why some patterns seem to have a UK influence and others Catskill....). These look to be size 14.

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[redietz]

Lil' Dorothy immediately jumps to my mind, save for the 'hot spot' and tail.

That was exactly my thought. In fact, it seemed so obvious that I decided against pointing it out.