Gingerdun's posting of the Angler's Club Bulletin article provided me with an attractive alternate to tying/posting more spider patterns, and I've been working on trying to learn some of the subtleties of Pete Hidy's tying techniques. What I've learned so far is that despite numerous attempts, even incorporating advice and opinions from Lance along the way, the flies I tie using Pete's recipes end up looking like they were tied by me. Here is an example (please note that have substituted Iron Dun hen saddle for the starling called out in the published recipe; after sorting through six starling pelts, I was unable to locate a feather having suitable length barbs and color):
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Pete's Iron Grey Dun
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Pete's Iron Grey Dun
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Re: Pete's Iron Grey Dun
tie2fish, Howdy;
Bill, far and away better than my feeble efforts
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hank
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Re: Pete's Iron Grey Dun
Bill, you really were able to create an effect that isn't Shuckish, and is truly Hidiesque. You really nailed the details and the iron looks spot on. Not surprised, but quite impressed. I'm going to follow your lead. Thanks.
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Re: Pete's Iron Grey Dun
Hi Bill,
Really nice Iron Blue Dun and indeed I think you are right there is something Shuckisch (thanks William) in this fly and I like that. I think it is allright if you can see in the tying and the presentation of the fly who the tier was and with the pictures of your flies I always know yes taht is one of Bill. Then is there also the meories of those days that I was in America with you and the other people of the forum.
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Really nice Iron Blue Dun and indeed I think you are right there is something Shuckisch (thanks William) in this fly and I like that. I think it is allright if you can see in the tying and the presentation of the fly who the tier was and with the pictures of your flies I always know yes taht is one of Bill. Then is there also the meories of those days that I was in America with you and the other people of the forum.
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Re: Pete's Iron Grey Dun
"the flies I tie using Pete's recipes end up looking like they were tied by me"
Ain't nuthin wrong with that Bill! You be styling!
I've found the same thing, when I tye other peoples patterns. I think some of the subtle differences in techniques/tying methods and simply how the material is wrapped/handled, can make a difference in the appearance of a fly. Our difference end up being almost a signature of a persons style. Hard to duplicate identically, but still fun to try.
Wonderful fly, by the way.
I also found your comment about the multiple starling skins interesting. I too, have found a great deal of variability in the hackle feathers on a the starling skins I own. Some of the ones I've ordered on line, have longer more slender feathers. When I have had the opportunity to hand pick the starling skins, I tend to favor the ones with broader feathers (more rounded and wider feathers on the back). These feathers have longer hackle fibers and are more useful in the larger hook sizes (10's to 14's). The long slender feathers are nicer for the little stuff (hook sizes 16's and smaller).
Ain't nuthin wrong with that Bill! You be styling!
I've found the same thing, when I tye other peoples patterns. I think some of the subtle differences in techniques/tying methods and simply how the material is wrapped/handled, can make a difference in the appearance of a fly. Our difference end up being almost a signature of a persons style. Hard to duplicate identically, but still fun to try.
Wonderful fly, by the way.
I also found your comment about the multiple starling skins interesting. I too, have found a great deal of variability in the hackle feathers on a the starling skins I own. Some of the ones I've ordered on line, have longer more slender feathers. When I have had the opportunity to hand pick the starling skins, I tend to favor the ones with broader feathers (more rounded and wider feathers on the back). These feathers have longer hackle fibers and are more useful in the larger hook sizes (10's to 14's). The long slender feathers are nicer for the little stuff (hook sizes 16's and smaller).
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Re: Pete's Iron Grey Dun
Bill, this is a wonderfully tied pattern. I tried this pattern a good while back. My fly did not compare to your fly at all. You did a beautiful job on this lovely pattern. Sometimes no matter what we do, we have a hard time imitating other people's work. I think having your own style, or flair, is what makes you stand out. Your own personality comes out in each fly. I don't consider it a bad thing at all. I think it is a very good thing. In some circles it is very desired to have your own look to a fly. 