Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by Kelly L. » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:18 pm

I enjoyed all the flies very much! I thought wingless wets/flymphs have no wings? Well so far I have made 3 flies I think. I'm not thrilled with any of them, but they aren't too bad.
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by letumgo » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:25 pm

Kelly - The wing was posted as a test. You passed. (humor/wink)
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by Kelly L. » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:42 pm

8-) Alrighty then!
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by willowhead » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:56 pm

Dang, your actually right Kelly.........i forget that......... :lol: ............ :oops: ............WAIT! i know what we do.........when it has a wing........you simply call it, a "Flyin' Flymph." :D :D :D ............................ :lol:......then, when your ready........you can jump off a cliff w/flyin' flymph in hand and
G-L-I-D-E.........to safety. :twisted:
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Post by letumgo » Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:40 pm

I was sensing that Mark (willowhead) had a "itch" that wasn't getting "scratched". So I put on my thinking cap (in this case my magnifying glasses) and set to work on an experimental concept fly. Creativity and having fun were my goal. Okay, Mark. This fly is just for you. I give you:

Cotter-pin/Wiggle-Tail/Dubbing Brush/Triple-Hackled Golden Stonefly Flymph (even the name is catchy, don't ya think?)
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Pattern/Recipe (to keep Hank happy - chuckle):
Wiggle Tail Core - Brass Cotter-pin (5/8" long)
Thread - 8/0 UNI-Thread (White)
Tail - Duck Biots (Colored with a Marigold Sharpie Marker)
Rib - UTC Vinyl Rib (Orange / Midge)
Abdomen - Wire Dubbing Brush (Golden Brown Hare's Ice Dubbing twisted in a copper wire dubbing brush)
Hook - Daiichi Model 1150 Curved Hook (Size 10)
Junction - loop of 20 pound test monofilament fishing line secured to the hook shank
Body - Wire Dubbing Brush (Golden Brown Hare's Ice Dubbing twisted in a copper wire dubbing brush)
Hackle - Three Hungarian Partridge (dyed picric yellow) - Three separate hackles, tyed in with only a single wrap at each location (split body in 1/3rds)
Head - Tying thread - 8/0 UNI-Thread (White) colored with a Sharpie Marker

I didn't have any Marigold color thread, so I used white and improvised with one of my Sharpie Markers.

The dubbing brush was inspired by Ruard's great copper-core flies.

I needed to counter rib over the dubbing brush to keep the rib from settling in to deeply between the wire. Counter ribbing kept the rib on the outer surface of the fly.

I left the butt end of the cotter-pin showing in the photos above. Once the fly is finished, the excess can be trimmed back with a pair of wire cutters.

I have been bouncing around the idea of a triple hackle flymph for a while. The idea is to simply build the fly from the back to the front, instead of wrapping a single hackle thru the body. For some reason, I have difficulty with the standard flymph hackling technique. The triple-hackle method involves bulding a dubbing lump at the back of the body, then tying in a hackle feather by the stem, make one single wrap of hackle, tye it off and clip off the excess. Then dub another third of the body, tye in a second feather, make one wrap of hackle, tye it off and trim excess. Dub the front third of the body, tye in the collar hackle (longer), make another wrap or two (whatever makes you happy) and then secure the hackle, trim excess and whipfinish a head. Anyway, this fly gave me a chance to try out the idea. I kinda like the results, although it takes a lot more steps to get similar results. Just another way to skin a cat...

This is intended to be a concept fly. Just a bunch of different ideas thrown together to see if any of them have merit. I think with a little fine tuning, this could be a useful fishing fly.

Constructive feedback is welcome (good/bad/or otherwise). Feel free to pick the fly, and the ideas, apart.
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by letumgo » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:27 pm

I wonder how a marabou plume would work for the abdomen. It may be a quick way to form the wiggle tail body.
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by hankaye » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:28 pm

Ray, Howdy;

Beautiful fly...well thought out.
Will be waiting for the fishin' model to show. Concept is very neat 8-) .

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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by Kelly L. » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:58 pm

LOL Mark...I know, you couldn't help yourself.

Ray, that fly is spectacular. I guess I should show some of my work. Mark wants me to show my experimentations, even when they aren't 100%...for inspiration. I guess I will take a couple of pics, and let the macro lens show me what the flies really look like. :D
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by willowhead » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:45 pm

Kelly.....bout time........and actually, more like today was a good day for "encouraging myself"........... :D
Ray, the itch is gone.........man, THAT is the ****! You just TOTALLY gave full credibility to the thread.........THAT's what it's all about.........Stretchin' boundires.........commin' up with brand new ideas......and sometimes that may just be a combination of things down in the past all pull together in new ways.........VERY akin to musical innovation.............there's nothin' new.........."What's New" (KILLER tune) is YOU, doin' YOUR thing, YOUR way. That whole thing bout "new" is a joke........and can be a trap, if you let yourself fall into it. But if you out here tryin' to discover for yourself a learning experience....you just might stumble up on somethin' way hip..........and you DID! That fly is an instant classic.........in the BEST and TRUEST sense of what that "should" mean. i'm gonna go ahead and post a fly i was goin' to post yesterday.....(but Misa never sent it to my email so i could download it), and it's a joke by comparison to yours..........but i aint makin' no dumb comparisons :lol: .......i'm ashamed to even post the thing............but i will.....cause like the lyric goes. "Gimme your heart...make it real...or else forget about it."

look Kelly.....no wing..... :lol: body (abdomen) is vynel tubbing.....thorax is Canadian Brown Seal.......orange dyed Grissly hackle..... 8-)
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Re: Steelhead/Salmon Flymphs..... ;>)

Post by Kelly L. » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:58 pm

Mark, that fly is not only beautiful, but very fishy as well. Well, here are 3 I did between last night, and today. They are fishing flies. They are not finalized. But it was some ideas I was playing with. I don't know much about Steelhead or Salmon fishing. But anyway, here are some ideas I had.

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