Horsehair Overcoat
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- Ron Eagle Elk
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
CB,
Those are some really cool loking flies. Recipe for that sulpher please. (As you made use of the material, I only supplied it, they should be CB's Sulphers). Also thanks for the warning about the content. Easy to protect children that way.
Hank,
A tyro is a beginner, or at least that's what my wife said and I never argue with her.
REE
Those are some really cool loking flies. Recipe for that sulpher please. (As you made use of the material, I only supplied it, they should be CB's Sulphers). Also thanks for the warning about the content. Easy to protect children that way.
Hank,
A tyro is a beginner, or at least that's what my wife said and I never argue with her.
REE
"A man may smile and bid you hale yet curse you to the devil, but when a good dog wags his tail he is always on the level"
Re: Horsehair Overcoat
Hankaye ~ REE's better half has it right. Although I've been tying flies for about 15 years or so, I'm basically a beginner when it comes to classic wingless wets.
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
Sulphur
Hook: TMC 200r Size 16
Thread: Pearsall's Primrose
Hackle: (1.) Bleached (ginger) partridge; (2.) Whiting hen, light dun.
Abdomen: Pearsall's orange; strand of horsehair tied in behind thorax onto the bare hook. (In order to save myself one layer of thread, I wrapped the horsehair with orange silk toward hook point by hand, then back up to the thorax and tied off with the primrose; likewise with the horsehair "overcoat.)
Dubbing: "Tups-y" mixture (creamy yellow possum, snowshoe hare underfur, pinch of orange seal) inserted into a split-thread.
At this point, you may bring the hen hackle back through the thorax to "flymph it up a little;" then wind a sparse collar of partridge. The second fly I tied with all orange Pearsall's which allowed me to use wood duck fibers ss a tail; that's ginger hen wound through the thorax, and finally a REDACTED of wood duck.
At any rate, I think they'll serve for my stupid little trout here in the Smokies come late April when "yaller" is the order of the day (both mayflies and Little Yellow Sallies) but if I were fishing more educated fish in a true "match the hatch" situation, I might try using a brown mallard tail and brown silk to mimic a shuck:
Hook: TMC 200r Size 16
Thread: Pearsall's Primrose
Hackle: (1.) Bleached (ginger) partridge; (2.) Whiting hen, light dun.
Abdomen: Pearsall's orange; strand of horsehair tied in behind thorax onto the bare hook. (In order to save myself one layer of thread, I wrapped the horsehair with orange silk toward hook point by hand, then back up to the thorax and tied off with the primrose; likewise with the horsehair "overcoat.)
Dubbing: "Tups-y" mixture (creamy yellow possum, snowshoe hare underfur, pinch of orange seal) inserted into a split-thread.
At this point, you may bring the hen hackle back through the thorax to "flymph it up a little;" then wind a sparse collar of partridge. The second fly I tied with all orange Pearsall's which allowed me to use wood duck fibers ss a tail; that's ginger hen wound through the thorax, and finally a REDACTED of wood duck.
At any rate, I think they'll serve for my stupid little trout here in the Smokies come late April when "yaller" is the order of the day (both mayflies and Little Yellow Sallies) but if I were fishing more educated fish in a true "match the hatch" situation, I might try using a brown mallard tail and brown silk to mimic a shuck:
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
RonEE & tie2fish, Howdy;
Thanks, Guess I am the 'tyro' on this forum...
Anyone know the origin's of that mononicker?
just askin' ...
hank
Thanks, Guess I am the 'tyro' on this forum...
Anyone know the origin's of that mononicker?
just askin' ...
hank
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
These threads just get better all the time!
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
Had to look it up myself!
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tyro
It seems to mean beginner.
I was wondering what being a Tyrolean had to do with it?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tyrolean
Kirk
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tyro
It seems to mean beginner.
I was wondering what being a Tyrolean had to do with it?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tyrolean
Kirk
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
crazy4oldcars, Howdy;
Thanks, at least I know that there are NO negative connotations implied or inferred .
Thanks, at least I know that there are NO negative connotations implied or inferred .
Striving for a less complicated life since 1949...
"Every day I beat my own previous record for number
of consecutive days I've stayed alive." George Carlin
"Every day I beat my own previous record for number
of consecutive days I've stayed alive." George Carlin
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
Whew!
Re: Horsehair Overcoat
From the Latin word for "young soldier/recruit". Even in Latin, it was extended to mean any beginner. It's been used in English for hundreds of years; I'm somewhat surprised that so many people on this forum haven't heard it used before. Means exactly the same thing as "rookie" and has the same connotations.hankaye wrote: Thanks, Guess I am the 'tyro' on this forum...
Anyone know the origin's of that mononicker?
Bob
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Re: Horsehair Overcoat
CreationBear - Wow! I love the sulphur pattern you posted. That looks LETHAL!
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