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[CreationBear]

Of course my Ayu is my answer for most everything these days...

Seriously, though I think that the most important idea is keeping the line--and as much of the tapered leader as you can--off the water. Of course there are any number of ways of doing this with traditional gear--I'm always looking for a conveniently placed rock to drape my leader over, for instance. Otherwise, all the other techniques that pertain to streamside "stealth" will serve you well, but I'd pay special attention to making sure not to line the fish (or even having the shadow of the rod or line on the water)--if your Utah fish are anything like my wild fish here in the Southern Appalachia's, they will be acutely attuned to "predation from above" in the form of kingfishers, etc.

Oh, and try to scare up a pair of knee-pads...

[hankaye]

Howdy All;

Well me an Lil Rascal, my dog. Went and explored the North run of the area I can access near here.
Jerry, good probing questions and I feel bad about not provideing the information eariler.

By golly CreationBear you may just have something there. Unfortunately Hank doesn't give us a whole lot to go on other than this creek is quite narrow and meanders a lot. Hank is it a free stone stream? Are corners where it meanders deeps pools? Are there steep banks with some undercuts? Does it have good sized rocks in it so as to provide holding areas? Information such as this can be quite helpful in giving advise as to how the stream is to be fished.

Regards, Jerry

Yes it is a Free Stone Stream, Yes deeper in the corners, good undercuts, the State has done some 'restoration' work and the tree stumps that you see have been "planted" and so have a majority of the large rocks. Water is clear as Gin. vegation on the underwater rocks. Did see a few fish before me mate spooked'em.












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[letumgo]

Man, that would be a fun little stream to learn to fish. You should definitely tye up a handful of the soft hackle pattern you posted and give it an honest try. My recommendation is to wear drab colored clothes (camo or dull tan colored cloths) and to keep a low profile when fishing each pool. Work your way upstream, fishing ahead of yourself. If it you have a choice, use a light rod (3 or 4 wt) set up with a 9 foot leader plus 3 feet of light tippet (4 lb test fluorocarbon). Take your time and watch the water carefully. I would highly recommend polarized sunglasses to help you see below the surface.

If the fish aren't biting, find a comfortable place to sit and watch the stream for a while (at least 10 to 15 minutes). You can learn a great deal by sitting still and watching the surroundings.

Good luck. Thanks for the photos.

[hankaye]

ay, Howdy;

Thanks for the tips. If you look closely at the last 2 pix ya might barely see a ripple in the first and diffenitaly in the second... below the lighter rocks @ 11 o'clock.
hank

[letumgo]

Nice spotting Hank. That's half the challenge.

I think I would approach that spot from the right side of the stream and cast towards the upstream side of the rocks. Let the current carry the flies downstream and towards the left.

[hankaye]

Ray,
That's what I was thinkin'... click'em an they gets BIGGER...

Didn't take my boots with me so I were stuck on the West bank.

Next time I'll have my boots and a rod with me an leave Rascal at a playdate with Lulu my lady freinds dog.

hank

[letumgo]

Hank - Thanks, didn't realize the photos would get bigger if I clicked on em. That helps.

I would definitely try some terrestrial patterns (ants, hoppers, beetles, etc.) under those trees next summer, especially on a windy day (if you can cast okay). The tall grass along the stream should hold lots of insects. I have a couple books by Harrison Steeves with some ideal patterns for that stream.

I know terrestrial patterns are not the focus of this forum, but that water just screams to me TERRESTRIAL patterns.

Here are the books I mention above:
http://www.amazon.com/Terrestrials-Appr ... 619&sr=8-4
http://www.amazon.com/Tying-Flies-Foam- ... t_ep_dpi_1

[willowhead]

i saw that before i read about it..... THAT is a quintesential little crick you got there. TONS of fun can be had.....i'd use a very short boo rod there.....you got any Cutthroat in there? What a great little stream..... Sure hope the ranchers aren't letting their cattle ruin it by destroying the banks. Have you got a TU Chapter there looking after that stream? It's so precious and should be protected. Maybe you can at least get the local property owners to form a little group to share ideas. Prolly chewin' off a lot, but worth a try. Great pics.

[Ron Eagle Elk]

I'd probably fish it with a 10 foot 4 wgt or a Tenkara rod so I could stay as far back from the water as possible, keeping low to keep the fish from seeing me. During the summer, terrestrials sound good to me, the rest of the year I'd be using the infamous wingless wets, starting with my favorite cast of the three Baillie's (Stewart's) spiders.

REE

[Jerry G]

Ray has given you some very good advice Hank. Find out what you can about the stream. What type trout are in there? Do they stock the stream? I have no idea what your bug ID skills are but turning a few rocks in the stream will give you some clues as to what you might be seeing as adult flies which then can get you on your way to tying the flies you will need. Upstream presentation is the way to go however because I would expect wind there. Don't let that ruin a days fishing. Sometimes you just have to turn around and fish across and down. A low profile, stealth, and no shadow on the stream. With what has been mentioned casts do not have to be necessarily long. With direct sun light on a little creek such as this I concentrate on whatever presents a shadow on the water. Quite often that means placing the fly very close to the banks. I seen a little riffle water in the pics. Often times fish will hold just below that riffle at the lip so to speak. Also look for what is called a scum line this usually will have some foam on the surface. These are yet another excellent place to fish your fly. They act like a conveyor belt carrying food down the stream. Hope some of this will help.

Regards, Jerry