Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Moderators: William Anderson, letumgo

Updtate
Posts: 199
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:11 pm

Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by Updtate » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:19 pm

A new acquisition I received today a pair of Eaurasian collared Dove wings. I had read that these wings provide a suitable substitute for Dotterel. I do happen to have a few Dotterel feathers provided to me by a good friend. I compared and indeed they are a very close match up. Some Dotterel flies to follow.
P_20210116_140745.jpg
P_20210116_140745.jpg (190.49 KiB) Viewed 4839 times
zen leecher
Posts: 998
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:11 pm
Location: Moses Lake, WA

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove

Post by zen leecher » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:24 pm

never thought of that. We have bunches of eurasian doves out here. Season for them is 24/7. I normally only shoot them during the mourning dove season.
User avatar
letumgo
Site Admin
Posts: 13346
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Buffalo, New York
Contact:

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by letumgo » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:30 pm

Tom - Thank you for making this post. The coloration of the feathers look very useful, for a range of patterns. Nice to hear of a good Dotterel sub.

I look forward to seeing the flies you create with these feathers.
Ray (letumgo)----<°))))))><
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo

"The world is perfect. Appreciate the details." - Dean
Variant
Posts: 373
Joined: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:23 am

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by Variant » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:30 pm

Here in Oregon the season is open all year long. The Eurasian Collared Dove is a little bit bigger than a morning Dove. Tom is on the money ,the feathers are very close to use for Dotterel substitute. I have been using the feathers for many patterns .

Lou
In sport,method is everything.The more the skill the method calls for,the higher it’s yield of emotional stir and satisfaction,the higher it’s place must be in a sportsman’s scale of values. RODERICK HAIG-BROWN
DUBBN
Posts: 1708
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:41 pm

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by DUBBN » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

It just dawned on me what doves those are. They are the ones that make that annoying call, that sounds like a Covid infected crow!!!
User avatar
Ron Eagle Elk
Posts: 2818
Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:33 am
Location: Carmel, Maine

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by Ron Eagle Elk » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:26 pm

DUBBN, yup, nothing compared to the sweet sound of a Mourning Dove. I have heard they are slightly tastier than the Mourning Dove and much larger. This thing about them being a good Dotterel sub is a bonus.
"A man may smile and bid you hale yet curse you to the devil, but when a good dog wags his tail he is always on the level"
Updtate
Posts: 199
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:11 pm

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by Updtate » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:40 am

And they were cheap! 2.50 a pair on eBay!

Tom
User avatar
letumgo
Site Admin
Posts: 13346
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Buffalo, New York
Contact:

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by letumgo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:00 am

I’m interested to hear your opinion about the secondary quills if you use them on winged wets.

Is the underside of the wings the same color?
Ray (letumgo)----<°))))))><
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo

"The world is perfect. Appreciate the details." - Dean
Updtate
Posts: 199
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:11 pm

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by Updtate » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:36 am

Ray I have not tried tying with the secondary quills yet but they appear to be fine. In between mallard and Starling!

The underwing for the most part is a light ash colour similar to Pearsalls gossamer ash.
P_20210117_102928.jpg
P_20210117_102928.jpg (181.56 KiB) Viewed 4751 times
User avatar
letumgo
Site Admin
Posts: 13346
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:55 pm
Location: Buffalo, New York
Contact:

Re: Eurasian Collared Dove (Dotterel Substitute)

Post by letumgo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:38 am

Thanks Tom.
Ray (letumgo)----<°))))))><
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php? ... er=letumgo

"The world is perfect. Appreciate the details." - Dean
Post Reply