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Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:28 pm
by Roadkill
My thanks to Andrew Herd for this fly from Thomas Hofland's The British Angler's Manual, 1839.

Hook-Dai Riki 070 #12
Thread-Pearsall's Primrose Yellow
Body-Marten Fur
Hackle-Starling

ImageIMGP0167 by William Lovelace, on Flickr

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:15 pm
by ronr
Bill from what part of the starling did you get the white feather...

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:31 pm
by Roadkill
Ron,

It is a light gray underwing feather. The text calls for 'The lightest part of a feather from a young starling's wing." I have no idea of the age of my starling. ;)

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 am
by Old Hat
Great looking dirty yellow pattern. This color is good for all kinds of bugs.

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:15 am
by letumgo
Bill - Is that martin fur dyed?

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:58 pm
by Roadkill
Ray the dubbing came off the most yellow part of the piece of tanned Marten hide I have (probably part of a coat collar).
ImageIMGP0168 by William Lovelace, on Flickr

I suspect the belly fur would have been more appropriate for the fly. The tips of the fur are yellow but the roots fade to a creamy tan.My dubbing looks more of a tan when blended but lightly dubbed on the silk the eye (and camera) is fooled into seeing something more in line with the idea from the original.

Here is the text from Herd's book Trout Fly Patterns 1496-1916 the History of flyfishing Volume Two

Pale Yellow Dun
Wings: The lightest part of a feather from a young starling's wing.
Body:Yellow Mohair, or martin's pale yellow fur, tied with yellow silk.
Hook: No. 12

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:25 pm
by Roadkill
Here is an updated version I will tie at the 2023 Pacific Northwest Expo...

ImageRIMG9222 by William Lovelace, on Flickr

I am using the same Marten dubbing but have subbed UTC 70 Yellow for the original silk and Whiting Natural Dun Hen cape feathers are a very good color match for the Starling and much easier to use.

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:39 am
by Solitaryflyguy
That’s a great tie ! I particularly like the wispiness of hair fibers coming off the body, It’s got PMD all over it.

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:10 am
by wsbailey
Reading through Hofland’s book it appears to me that all of his flies are winged except for a couple of palmers. The illustration quality is poor but number 7 is the fly in question.

https://archive.org/details/britishangl ... 1/mode/1up

Re: Pale Yellow Dun 1839

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:48 pm
by DUBBN
Bill, bring a box full of those flies to Western Colorado. Size 16 thru 12. Nymphing to swinging, you will not be disappointed .