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A shameless theft of some of Hans' ideas. :-[



HOOK - Partridge K14ST #14
THREAD - Gutermann Sliver (col 8021)
HACKLE - Hen Badger
BODY - Gutermann Sliver (col 8021)
RIB - Gutermann Sliver Dubbing loop with a pinch of Clear Antron inserted.

*To form the rib, wrap the thread down the body, forming a dubbing loop as you go. Then return the thread to the shoulder, insert dubbing into loop and wrap as rib.

I do like the effect you get with clear Antron when it's wet.

Great tie! I really like the picture of it wet. Now if one of us just had an underwater camera so we could see what the fish see...

Dennis,

That really makes for a compelling body using the dubbed rib the way you have.

Is the Guterman Sliver a silver tinsel or a silk? either way, I have a question.

Do you guys use silver bodied flies? I've seen lots of patterns lately using a silver tinsel body, and I've tied a couple myself with bright silver wire. I didn't put them in my box though. When it came time to reload my rows of five of each pattern, they didn't make the cut. Are there particular waters that you guys prefer this type of body? Murky water, very fast water, still water? Just curious. It's not like I dont have enough patterns that need to be tested after a winter of tying, but I could be convinced to add this to the mix if you thought it was one of your better patterns.

thanks, and nice fly for sure.

w

Although it is not wingless, last year I tied a Peter Ross and it was very effective on the Upper Green.

William Anderson wrote: Is the Guterman Sliver a silver tinsel or a silk? either way, I have a question.

Neither William, it's a clear flat plastic/silicon type "thread" second from bottom on this page. http://www.nordicneedlecraft.co.uk/acat ... hread.html

William Anderson wrote:Do you guys use silver bodied flies? I've seen lots of patterns lately using a silver tinsel body, and I've tied a couple myself with bright silver wire. I didn't put them in my box though. When it came time to reload my rows of five of each pattern, they didn't make the cut. Are there particular waters that you guys prefer this type of body? Murky water, very fast water, still water? Just curious. It's not like I dont have enough patterns that need to be tested after a winter of tying, but I could be convinced to add this to the mix if you thought it was one of your better patterns.

I don't use silver bodied flies on the river for trout William, for some reason they have rarely worked for me.
I do use them for Seatrout/Salmon, and on Lochs/Lakes. Favourites being flies such as the Butcher, Peter Ross, Silver Sultoun, Silver Doctor, Teal, Blue and Silver and Silver Invicta.

Thanks Dennis. That sounds like an interesting product. It's an interesting fly for sure.

I think the silverbodied fly would be best asked as a new thread in fly tying. Thanks for the response.

w

Those of you interested in the Guterman's "thread" can find it at Joanne's Fabrics (assuming there's one in your area) in the specialty threads section. The display rack says "Sulky" on the top, and the U.S. version is labeled as "Sliver (sic) Metallic", with a product number of 145-8021. I've found it a little difficult to work with, as it's quite slippery; one needs to keep constant tension on it or your wraps will unravel.

tie2fish wrote: I've found it a little difficult to work with, as it's quite slippery; one needs to keep constant tension on it or your wraps will unravel.

I've spooled it onto an empty Uni spool t2f and use it with a bobbin, the weight of the bobbin is sufficient to hold it. Just like working with any other "thread."

These are very compelling photos, especially the wet version. For sure the body looks very translucent, and the hackle adds a beautiful halo about the fly.

Nice job, Dennis.



Mark