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I have been playing with some new hooks I found. They are old Mustad- Crystal, 1827Y, Brass plated short shanked hooks. #15's. I found a lot of them but very few were good enough to photograph, most were fine for fishing, and many had to be trashed. A neat hook non the less.

Ya gotta love a limerick! (at least I do) Boy, Mustad has made some great hooks over the years.

Beautiful fly, Carl.

Nice all around fly. How does that fly do on Trout Carl.

Andy

Nice fly Carl, the hook with the straight eye matches well with this pattern.

Greeting

That hook color really compliments the plover. A beautiful fly, Carl.

Thanks everyone. I chose the pattern mainly just to complement the hook on this one. So I haven't fished with these hooks yet and to answer your question Andy, I don't know. Now I have fished the pattern many times before on other hooks and with partridge or grouse as well as the plover. Can't say I have seen a big difference between the three hackles but all three readily catch trout. The plover is the nicest looking hackle of the three to my eyes. They especially work well on the faster mountain streams in my area that are rough and tumble through a boulder substrate. I think of this pattern as my pocket water companion. I more often than not fish it as a single fly in this water just because there are too many currents to deal with and multiple flies become a hindrance, for me any way. Any of the small spider patterns work well in this situation. I basically let them drift on a short line through all the seems and "swirl" about pockets and washes, or I'll cast them off rocks and logs and allow them to drop straight in tight against the structure. The water I'm talking about is clear, steep gradient, rough and not very big, you know, maybe 10' wide. Our local streams like this drain a rugged mountain range into the valley and the water is mostly snowmelt. they are filled with brook trout mostly, some rainbow, and a few bull trout. The bull trout can really grow in this water and in the right places a 15-18" or bigger bull trout can be pulled out of a hole no bigger than 3-4' in diameter.

Sorry got off on a tangent answering your question...I digress....Haven't fished with this hook yet, but yes, it it should do well on trout.

Good fly.
Now my fishing partner and I are using Kamasan B525's because of the straight eye and the limerick bend. And I think they do out perform other hooks in some patterns.
If you take a marginal covert feather for the Golden Plover you have a replacement for the Dotterel. So a feather from this bird plus orange thread and you have the Dotterel & Orange a very killing fly and one that Pritt used a lot.

Carl,

On the other hand, thanks for taking us on the tangent. I often wonder about where, how and for what many of these flies are being used. I thought you did an exceptional job detailing your efforts with the "Plover and Orange". Please feel free to keep the tangents coming.

Regards, Jerry

Thanks gentlemen for the gracious comments.

...and thanks Phillip for the information, I'm going to go take a look at marginal coverts.