Fiery Fly

[Old Hat]

I'm excited about this one. However, I'll be honest it has not seen fish water yet. I have been tying some winged wet fly cousins to this with goose biot wings that have been very productive for me as of late. I have been experimenting with wet flies with built up abdomens of floss which I lightly coat in an epoxy type cement. Both with attractive florescent and neutral colors. The winged flies have been productive but not sure if it is the floss body or biots, I do think that one of the two may be the trigger. Anyway once trout season opens again I'll have a few of these to test.



Hook: Mustad R50 #14
Thread: Brown Pearsall's gossamer silk thread
Abdomen: Danville's florescent fire orange floss coated with glossy cement.
Thorax: Black seal dubbing in a split thread twist, very lightly dubbed so you can still see the brown thread.
Hackle: Outer coverts from a Hungarian partridge wing. Use the feathers that are half dark brown/red and half mottled.

Its cousin which has proved itself well. Started off as a steelhead fly but has caught its share of trout while steelheading, enough to get it a place in my box.

[Ruard]

Think that I can adopt the idea for fishing Roach perhaps with a fosforiscerend abdomen. Beatiful flies!

Greeting

[DNicolson]

Two very interesting flies and nicely dressed.
There is an old (1950s) Scottish fly called 'Black Joe', so called because the originator was
Joe Black from Falkirk. It was a bit like a Black & Peacock Spider with a Fluo Red Butt.
There is a more modern version called the Machair Spider, said to be a real killer on
the machair lochs of the Western Hebrides.
I believe there is an US version called the Red Assed Spider.
So, your flies have a very fine pedigree.
Black Joe
Hook: 14-16.
Body: Rear half bright red or fluo floss,
Front half black floss or black ostrich herl,
Hackle: Black hen , sparse.

I really like the coated butts on your flies.

[tie2fish]

That is outstanding!

[Old Hat]

Thanks gentlemen for the comments and the information.

Donald - I had heard of the Red Assed Spider but not the others. Thanks, you're a welcomed wealth of pattern knowledge.

[willowhead]

DYNOMITE!!!!! way cool tyes........that "carrot belly" is great.

[garyk]

Wonderfully creative fly!!!! I'll be tying some of these myself. Thankyou for the inspiration!

Cheers,
Gary

[letumgo]

Holy cow! They are stunningly beautiful flies Carl. Inspirational as always...

[CreationBear]

Brookie slayers, no doubt. A couple of questions for you, though: 1.) what's the hackle on Fly #2, and do you have it palmered through the thorax? And, 2.) what's the color of the floss like after you get it wet? Does the "gloss-coat" keep it bright, or just add an extra bit of sheen?

(Otherwise, I hope there's a "Sawada" pro staff you could be part of...some sharp looking irons!

[Old Hat]

Glad you all like them. I think the soft hackle has a lot of promise. I'm also tying some with a green and an amber abdomen.

The hackle on the first fly is an outer pintail covert feather. I only had a few in a bag of pintail feathers I got from my brother. Beautiful feathers, I would like to find a whole skin. It is palmered through the thorax.

The thorax stays bright. I pre make the abdomens on the hooks, coat them entirely to seal them the best I can, then once they are fully cured, I proceed to finish the fly.