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Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:45 am
by Old Hat
Spent part of the day tying old school. Started out making dubbing ropes Leisenring style on my knee. It is a pretty quick process once you get it down. There is like 3-4 pages devoted to it in ATWF with very descriptive details. I pulled out a remnant vise from my collection of Thompson vises, a Special "C". Used an old Thompson hackle plier, some vintage silk and wire and tied without a bobbin holder since I don't think I have any old ones. Kept it simple with a Leisenring Spider on Mustad 3399's in a #13.
I did put a quick video up on my website of building the dubbing rope with Leisenring's method.
https://www.oldhatflytying.com/dubbing- ... -knee.html
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Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:30 am
by Ron Eagle Elk
Nicely done, Carl. Sometimes it's nice to go back to the old stuff to make us appreciate the new stuff.
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 am
by Updtate
Very nicely done Carl. To be heritage the equipment need not be old but to have been in use 1969 or earlier. Chase bobbins are readily available and work quite well. .Pearsalls is perfect made from 1890 to about 2012!
Tom
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:38 am
by Variant
Great post Carl!
It brings back some old memories learning to make dubbing ropes on the pant leg.
The consistency of your work is outstanding, your flies look like “peas in a pod.”
Lou
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:41 am
by zen leecher
OH, you could have use a clothes pin as your thread weight as that's how i learned as a kid. Just had a brain activity (opposite of a fart) thought and wondered if hungarian partridge was being used at all for hackle back in the 50's-60's. I tied back then on the east coast and all I remember then was chicken hackle. I'd like to have one of the old Hille's catalogs as that's what I used for buying material. My dad drove me down to Railway St as that was their original location before they moved to South Williamsport.
I had the old Thompson's AA vise, a pair of hackle pliers like yours with the gum rubber that would harden and get sticky on the jaws. Also had a Thompson's whip finisher with no instructions that took me a couple of weeks before I could figure out how to use it.
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:59 am
by Old Hat
zen leecher wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:41 am
OH, you could have use a clothes pin as your thread weight as that's how i learned as a kid. Just had a brain activity (opposite of a fart) thought and wondered if hungarian partridge was being used at all for hackle back in the 50's-60's. I tied back then on the east coast and all I remember then was chicken hackle. I'd like to have one of the old Hille's catalogs as that's what I used for buying material. My dad drove me down to Railway St as that was their original location before they moved to South Williamsport.
I had the old Thompson's AA vise, a pair of hackle pliers like yours with the gum rubber that would harden and get sticky on the jaws. Also had a Thompson's whip finisher with no instructions that took me a couple of weeks before I could figure out how to use it.
Partridge has been used for a LONG time. If I had a clothes pin I would have used it. That is exactly what is used in the book shown.
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:03 am
by Old Hat
Updtate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 am
Very nicely done Carl. To be heritage the equipment need not be old but to have been in use 1969 or earlier. Chase bobbins are readily available and work quite well. .Pearsalls is perfect made from 1890 to about 2012!
Tom
Thanks Tom. Just using what I had. I’ve been enjoying the FB Heritage group even though they are mostly dry fly guys.
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:05 am
by Old Hat
Old Hat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:03 am
Updtate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 am
Very nicely done Carl. To be heritage the equipment need not be old but to have been in use 1969 or earlier. Chase bobbins are readily available and work quite well. .Pearsalls is perfect made from 1890 to about 2012!
Tom
Whew, means I’m barely heritage since I was born in ‘69 Thanks Tom. Just using what I had. I’ve been enjoying the FB Heritage group even though they are mostly dry fly guys.
Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:10 am
by wsbailey
I’m sure this bobbin holder is vintage.
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Re: Heritage Tying
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:39 am
by Updtate
Old Hat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:03 am
Updtate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:40 am
Very nicely done Carl. To be heritage the equipment need not be old but to have been in use 1969 or earlier. Chase bobbins are readily available and work quite well. .Pearsalls is perfect made from 1890 to about 2012!
Tom
Thanks Tom. Just using what I had. I’ve been enjoying the FB Heritage group even though they are mostly dry fly guys.
Some of us are strictly dry but not all of us . Here's a wet as Catskill as it gets! The Bonnie View now known as The Beaverkill Valley In.
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