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Red Clock

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:32 pm
by Niklas Dahlin
Evening..
I am doing a little spider project with some of my mates.. You will get information about the project later.. I know you will be intrested :D enough said!

Well my task is the Red Clock from the book North Country Flies by T.E. Pritt. The Red Clock is No:16 from the book. Hackle from the cock pheasants neck, Yellow silk, a twist of peacock herl behind the hackle and for the head. I made some to try out this evening... What do you think?

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Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:52 pm
by Roadkill
A very nice tie! Did you use continuous peacock herl or tie it in again after the hackle?

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:34 pm
by mikeytwoshoes
I love it.

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:15 am
by Niklas Dahlin
Roadkill wrote:A very nice tie! Did you use continuous peacock herl or tie it in again after the hackle?
Thank you.. ;) .. First i tied in the hackle, then wrapped the body. Tied in the peacock herlmade two turns of it made one securewrap to hold it, wrapped the hackle 1,5 turns. then continued with the herl.

Later
Nik

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:15 am
by Niklas Dahlin
mikeytwoshoes wrote:I love it.
Thank´s Mikey...

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:15 am
by Ruard
Nice tying Niklas. You use the red Cock hackle?

Something strange with this fly. Pritt gives as thread yellow, but in the drawing the fly has a red body???
The hackle in the drawing is a tippet of a goldpheasant I think. The scan comes from my copy of Pritt:1995 by Smith Settle Ltd.

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Greeting

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:16 am
by Niklas Dahlin
Ruard wrote:Nice tying Niklas. You use the red Cock hackle?

Something strange with this fly. Pritt gives as thread yellow, but in the drawing the fly has a red body???
The hackle in the drawing is a tippet of a goldpheasant I think. The scan comes from my copy of Pritt:1995 by Smith Settle Ltd.

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Greeting
Hrm.. I didn´t think of it but I actually agree with you.. Anyone know anything about this? Mike maybe?

Maybe if I would have used a really dark wax and the yellow thread was more to the orange? And when looking at the hackles I got there are some of them has like brown/reddish center and more to the black at the edges. But if I would use those fibers I need to use a size 8 hook :lol:

Later
Nik

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:41 am
by Soft-hackle
Hi Nik, Ruard,
Here's my interpretation of the pattern:

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Hook: Standard wet fly

Thread: Yellow

Hackle: Golden Hackle from a Ring-Neck cock (on neck) or Red Cock

Abdomen: Yellow silk floss

Thorax: Peacock herl

Head: In front of hackle-Peacock herl

The reason for the discrepancy could be the printing process for one. Often times, what is printed in an illustration may not be color corrected to the actual illustration. Back then, I'm not sure how much color correcting they did. Over the years, the original illustrations may have gotten lost, and the only prints they have are of the uncorrected kind. Now all prints of those plates show an off color.

The only other explanation might be the body was waxed, and this darkened the thread, somewhat, making it more an orange, but the instructions do not mention waxing the thread, so I have a feeling it's more the first reason.

Mark

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:07 am
by mikeytwoshoes
mark yer interpretation is lovely as well. no surprise that.

Re: Red Clock

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:43 pm
by Joe Billingsley
But then why the name "Red" Clock?
Joe