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Recovering from a trapped neck nerve, thought I'd get some practice.

Stewart style spiders -
4 x Dun spiders top left corner
4 x Red Spiders along the bottom
6x Black spiders top right
Harelug and Plover - centre

I'll go practise some more

Roy

Sorry to hear about the neck problem, Roy. The flies are just lovely though, bad neck or no.

NIce stuff Roy..
What up with the neck mate? Tell me.. Do you know for a fact that there should be yellow silk on the Dun Spider.. I don´t find anything telling the colour of the thread of the Dun spider in the "Practical angler" he seems to have left that out?
Later
Nik

Thanks, chaps,

Niklas Dahlin wrote:NIce stuff Roy..
What up with the neck mate? Tell me.. Do you know for a fact that there should be yellow silk on the Dun Spider.. I don´t find anything telling the colour of the thread of the Dun spider in the "Practical angler" he seems to have left that out?
Later
Nik

Trapped nerve, Nik, tingling in fingers both hands, pain &cetera two months now..

I have no more evidence than you on thread colour as the Practical Angler is unspecific.
I took my recipe from Courtney Williams Dictionary of Trout Flies - well the thread anyway, he wants starling underwing for the hackle but the quail is excellent

Nice flies Roy.

I look in the book of Stewart and could not find the color of the thread. Roger Fogg:
"Stewart's Dun Spider
Hook: 14 or 16
Hakle: Dotterel feather wound half the length of the body.
A substitute dun-colourd feather from a starlig wing must now be used.
Body: Unspecified. I prefer to use a pale yellow or orange silk but other colours may be employed"

You are in good company with your silk.

The spiders look deadly, good luck with the neck. My fingers sometimes feel a bit tingley after too many pints too.

Roy wrote:Thanks, chaps,

Niklas Dahlin wrote:NIce stuff Roy..
What up with the neck mate? Tell me.. Do you know for a fact that there should be yellow silk on the Dun Spider.. I don´t find anything telling the colour of the thread of the Dun spider in the "Practical angler" he seems to have left that out?
Later
Nik

I have no more evidence than you on thread colour as the Practical Angler is unspecific.
I took my recipe from Courtney Williams Dictionary of Trout Flies - well the thread anyway, he wants starling underwing for the hackle but the quail is excellent

Hi.. I talked this over with Johan Klingberg over the phone.. I thought Dun was gray, he told me Dun is more like "cream yellowish greyish" if that´s the case it actually makes sence that the thread should be "yellowish".. The only thing I can hold against that theorie is that I think Red Spider and Dun Spider get kind of the same colour. I thought Stewart was thinking, dark bugger -Black spider, Medium bugger-Dun Spider and finally Light bugger. That to me make sence..

Well it seems to be yellow thread that is the correct colour....

Later
Nik

Niklas Dahlin wrote:
Well it seems to be yellow thread that is the correct colour....

Later
Nik

More like 'acceptable' colour Niklas.
Try it with dun, oranges, grey, olives - see how it goes.
Maybe the thread colour was unspecified for a reason....

Sorry to hear about your neck, Roy, but I'm glad to hear that its getting better. Lovely batch of spiders!

Thanks, all,

Niklas,
here is a set of Dun Spiders - well sort of...
Left to right
orange- yellow- olive- bodied.
I cannot see a lot of difference between olive and yellow, the orange stands out strongly, I have no grey, that should vanish like white in water.





On your definition, I'd reckon the dark is the Black Spider,
the medium is the Red Spider,
the light is the Dun Spider.

Now, if Stewart was using cobbler's wax that would make sense.

This set would fare well in a varied Cahill hatch, I reckon.