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Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:42 pm
by William Anderson
As Karsten suggested, an ongoing thread of hatch comments, flies posted with dressings, preferences and opinions would be interesting to maintain as we plan and tie and dream. I'll come back to update this initial post with an offering of my own, but I'd love to get this started and see where it leads.

Eric Peper suggested this in another thread:

Caddis: CDC & Elk in size 16 with green, gray or brown CDC bodies. I like a "medium" shade of deerhair for the wing. This is my "fall back" fly for June and early July. I'll go through 2-3 dozen in that timeframe.
Green Drake: is Drunella grandis, size 10, suggest emergers and dun imitations, BWO body color. Midday hatch. I like a flymph pattern for this one.
Western March Brown: is Rithrogena, size 14, dark brown body in whatever dun design you like. In a pinch, a Dark Hendrickson would do the deed. In a warm year, these will be pretty well hatched out by mid-June. Midday hatch
Baetis: Size 20 BWO, midday hatch
PMDs are possible, and these will be a size 16, any sulphur pattern you like will do just fine. The subspecies in the west has just a tad more olive color in the body. Midday hatch. Here are a couple of flymphs I like for this hatch and a dun.
Brown Drake: Ephemera simulans. Same as the eastern and midwestern variety. Size 10. Evening to night hatch and spinner fall. Slow water sections. Brings out the really big fish.

Eric


I realize I'll have to edit this initial post, maybe from a different machine. Just trying to get the thing moving forward. Thanks for any contribution.

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:07 pm
by Smuggler
Thanks Will, for making this a separate thread, makes it simple to find. And thanks Eric for the suggestions, tips and photos of the patterns you like.

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:49 pm
by Roadkill
Thanks Eric and Will!!

I had already begun my Rendezvous research here... http://www.west-fly-fishing.com/cgi-bin ... 6&tmFlag=1 :D

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:59 pm
by Old Hat
This should be great to keep track of.

Thanks.

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:49 am
by fly_fischa
Thought I'd combine these two posts from another thread...

Jim Salttery's extensive list of must have patterns;
Flies that you should have for the Madison at Campfire and below the Slide:
Big Stonefly nymphs such as Flex Girdle Bugs in ,: Brown, Olive /Black, Olive?Rust, Olive Sizes 4 through 12, Smethurst STONE BOMB and TWENTY BOMB, Generic stone flies in Black, Brown, Olive and golden.
PURPLE EXPLOSION Nymphs
BATMAN nymphs 14-18
Three Dollar Dips sizes 16-18
Tungsten Deathmetal nymphs sizes 16-20
Shop Vacs sizes 16-20
Pheasant Tail nymphs 16 - 20
Flashback Pheasant Tail nymphs 16-20
Psycho Prince nymphs 16-20
Zebra Midge 16-18
PMD Flymph
Wilted Spinach
BWO dries 16-18
CDC and Elk 14-18
Carlson's Purple Haze 16-18
Parachute Adams 14-18
Articulated Streamers
3X Flourocarbon Tippet
AAA Split shot
A great book to have would be Halafe(?) Western Mayflies .
Jim


Whoa, that’s some list you got going there Jim. :D
I recognize most of the flies listed and thought I’d post some resources for everyone. Here’s a list of some of the flies I thought people might not know about or be interested in. If there’s any I missed let me know?
Enjoy
Karsten ;)

Great resource for Carlson’s Purple Haze
http://vimeo.com/71762339

PURPLE EXPLOSION Nymphs by Jeremy Lucas
I’m not sure if this is pattern Jim is talking about?
http://www.danica.com/flytier/jdavies/p ... _stone.htm


Here’s a recipe for Mercer’s Psycho Prince
https://catalog.theflyshop.com/product_ ... ts_id=2553
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYVkTo9AvJY


Wired $3 Dip by Craig Mathews, a great resource for other patterns on his site
http://www.blue-ribbon-flies.com/how-to/wired_3_dip/

Craig Mathew’s Shop Vac and a variation
http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Portals/0/ ... %20VAC.pdf
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/fotw/20 ... 091228.php

Montana fly company produce the “Tungsten Deathmetal nymphs” and “BATMAN nymphs
I grabbed these pic’s as a reference from http://www.manictackleproject.com/ Whose the distributor of Montana fly company flies in OZ, I hope it's ok for me to post pics?
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Last but not least I thought I’d include a copy of the AAA split shot fly for Ray’s benefit, it’s the barbless version. :twisted: ;)
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Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:55 am
by hankaye
fly_fischa & WiFlyfisher, Howdy;

Thanks for the visual aids!!!
When I first saw the list last night I started to track some of them down.
Not such an easy task for me, but then ya'll have been doin' this longer than I have :lol: .
I found the Flex Girdle Bug aka "The Pickle"
http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox ... rentID=178
then it was time for Rascal's 'Last out for the night'...

hank

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:40 pm
by Ron Eagle Elk
The Purple Explosion we had in the shop was very, very purple, as was the Purple Batman. There is a new Wilted Spinach variation that has been working well. Same bubbles at the tail, same black hen hackle, substitute UV Purple Ice Dub for the body. I can't tie them fast enough to meet the demand. The Psycho Prince Nymphs are very bright green, at least the ones that work are.

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:29 pm
by gingerdun
Confession.
When I was on the Madison last month, I was relieved to see certain reputable flymph anglers using flies that weren't strictly "flies," and while they were wingless, and wet, were definitely not flymphs.
These feathery lures have the initials W.B. and are known to be especially effective with the larger fish.
Of course I would never dream of using a W.B. (unless nobody is looking). :D

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:18 pm
by fly_fischa
Let me see,
Wet bait, wet basil, winged beauty, winged baboon, wet bat, wardens bomber, this is harder than I thought, Woolly !!!

Bugger :oops: , I think I just realised the fly your'e referring to. Sorry for swearing

K ;)

Re: Madison River Hatches - Mid to Late June

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:51 am
by gingerdun
fly_fischa wrote:Let me see,
Wet bait, wet basil, winged beauty, winged baboon, wet bat, wardens bomber, this is harder than I thought, Woolly !!!

Bugger :oops: , I think I just realised the fly your'e referring to. Sorry for swearing

K ;)
:o You deciphered my code, pal. Warden's Bomber it is.
While risking being banned from the forum, I may post the pattern later this fall. :twisted:

Your friend,
Woolly