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"Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:13 am
by daringduffer
I am glad that you are back, Mike, since I have a question regarding the historical background and practise for setting the hackle, as opposed to umbrella style. Can you please eloaborate somewhat on this?

Anybody's input is welcome as well.

dd

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:11 am
by GlassJet
Fascinating stuff Mike.
Mike wrote:Good dressers produced flies like this which looked identical to each other, in terms of dressing, set, and bend. I dont know of any books which refer to this.
If this is true, you should write it up for one of the magazines, I could see Fly Dressers Guild mag publishing something like this - they should do anyway... be a shame for this kind of knowledge to be lost.

Andrew.

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:36 am
by daringduffer
Thank you Mike - I knew I could trust you!

When I first saw spiders with set hackles I thought this was the result of being stored in a fly wallet. These "simple" flies have always intrigued me and when I got the opportunity in the late eighties I discussed them with Lars Olsson, riverkeeper at Idsjostrommen in Gim river in Sweden. He told me that this "set" was deliberate and to me it makes a lot of sense when seeing wings and legs of a fly drifting in the stream. Although I am very eager to read what I can find about the subject it was not until I first read one of your writings I ever met this information again.

Was it Blacker who propagated against it, or was it someone else? I seem to remember that some well known fly-dresser preferred umbrella style but can't remember where I picked that up.

dd

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:58 am
by Hans Weilenmann
Mike,

Ditto.

Cheers,
Hans W

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:30 am
by wsbailey
"a mode of partially curling the hackle": http://www.archive.org/stream/artoftrou ... 0/mode/2up

Bill

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:17 pm
by hankaye
Howdy Mr. Connor,
You generate so much grist for my mill...
I am finding that I look forward to the huge posts that you place here-in.
As a novice to fly fishing I (and no doubt others), find your insights to be enlighting.
Please stick around, I'm appericating what you have to say.
Thank you,
hank

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:29 pm
by GlassJet
Mike wrote:If it's here, it isn't yet lost.................! :)
I was going to post here, but instead have started a new thread in the fishing cabin, asking about how these boards are archived and the permanence (or otherwise!) of a thread's url.
http://www.flymphforum.com/phpBB3/viewt ... f=8&t=1296
Andrew.

Re: "Setting" the hackle?

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:45 pm
by daringduffer
Mike,

This thread is a typical example of why I totally ignore the size of your trumpet and how you use it. You help me connect with our history which to me is as important as to catch fish - or even more so.

Thank you.

dd

Forgot to say that the"Pink Squirrel" looks quite indispensable...