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Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:54 pm
by DUBBN
Size 22 Griffith Gnat on the New Firehole hooks.

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Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:01 pm
by wsbailey
That hook looks like a barbless version of Mustad 37160 AKA English bait hook.

Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:49 pm
by letumgo
Thanks for sharing the video John. One of the best summaries I’ve listened to on hooks.

Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:52 pm
by tworod
I firmly believe that no one will ever make any sense of hooks. The chassis of our work is a Tower of Babel.
The only improvement, a significant one, has been the quality control within a brand. Mustad and Partridge, in particular, would have serious differences in a model depending on the production run.
Partridge was the worse. I can recall frequent correspondence Al Troth had with Alan Bramley about the differences in shank length of a hook model in an order of as many as a thousand hooks.
Best to stay with one model of a brand for a particular fly until the brand disappoints.

Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:24 am
by Rscconrad
That explains a lot. I thought I was going crazy trying to figure out the lengths on some of my older mustad 9672 and 9673 hooks.

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Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:51 am
by Theroe
Ohhhh BOY………if any of you realized just how many hours I have put into this subject……. At the end of the day I realized this: certain flies must be tied on certain hooks!
Also - Go check out Eide’s website at flyhooks.org…….at the looney bin, he is in the bed next to me.🙃😵‍💫😳

Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:57 am
by bearbutt
This is an essential reference book for measurements--shank length, gape, wire diameters, and weight--though the weights are all wrong (they are weights per 100 hooks, not one hook, lol)--. Covers Wright & McGill, Partridge, Mustad, Kamasan, Tiemco, and VMC--but because it was published in 1986 doesn;t cover any of the newer hooks--like Dana said, go to flyhooks.org for this data.

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Re: Making Sense of Hooks

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:37 pm
by Johnno
Yes that is a useful book. Along with the two hackle books……..