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P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:58 pm
by NightWatchman
Was wondering what you guys thought of the color ? Tied on a Partridge spider sz 12
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Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:23 am
by FlyFisherMann1955
I think the body color goes well with the hackle, which appears to be a darker (brown) partridge feather, as opposed to the lighter (grey) partridge. It would be interesting to see your fly against a different color (white) background. Of course, 6b is "sherry spinner", which is more subdued than either 6a "gold" (light orange) or 19 "hot orange" that are usually used when tying the Partridge & Orange pattern.

Tight Lines- Ken

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:21 pm
by joaniebo
Ken

I don't recall whether it was on this Forum or on the Classic Rod Forum, but there's several fly tiers that feel that the Java Brown and 6b silks both look very much alike when wet.

Bob

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:34 pm
by FlyFisherMann1955
Bob,

I think it's 6b (Sherry Spinner) and 32 (Classic Chestnut) that are difficult to tell apart. Look at Phil's Wet/Dry Color Chart that is pinned near the top of this section.

You can also look at this post from 13 months ago:

https://flymphforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8658

Tight Lines- Ken

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:00 pm
by NightWatchman
So correct me if Iā€™m wrong guys but I thought I had read somewhere that Pearsalls 6b was the original color
thread for the P & O. Truth or myth ? Thanks.

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:31 pm
by FlyFisherMann1955
I've never heard that 6b was the color to use. Then, the fly would have been called the Partridge & Sherry Spinner! I believe early references simply call for a body of "orange" silk, so that would be 6a "light orange" (sometimes called "gold") and then later 19 "hot orange". I was under the idea that 6b "Sherry Spinner" was a later add to the Pearsall's color rainbow.

I will look for more details. Perhaps, 1 of the experts will jump in to clarify.

Tight Lines- Ken

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:17 am
by Ron Eagle Elk
Most references I've seen call for 6a for the P&O. That's what I've always used.

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:49 am
by NightWatchman
So I probably made the mistake of choosing 6b and not 6a. Thanks for the feedback fellas.

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:16 pm
by Fishnkilts
NightWatchman wrote: ā†‘Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:49 am So I probably made the mistake of choosing 6b and not 6a. Thanks for the feedback fellas.
I wouldn't beat yourself up about it because the fly itself looks impressive. I like the color of the silk with that hackle,

Re: P & O. using Morus silk 6b

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:50 am
by Theroe
joaniebo wrote: ā†‘Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:21 pm Ken

I don't recall whether it was on this Forum or on the Classic Rod Forum, but there's several fly tiers that feel that the Java Brown and 6b silks both look very much alike when wet.

Bob
+1
As do light yellow and Primrose, Scarlet and red, etc.