Up Eye Dry Fly Hooks

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Re: Up Eye Dry Fly Hooks

Post by wsbailey » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:28 pm

I remember seeing pictures of the old Partridge works. There was one of a worker Japanning hooks in an enameled metal salad bowl. A number classic salmon fly tyers rework large hooks into blind eye salmon hooks. I make Japan black that some use on their reworked hooks.
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Re: Up Eye Dry Fly Hooks

Post by wsbailey » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:53 pm

This might be interesting to those who like fishing hook history.

http://ronnlucassr.com/hook-information/old-hooks/
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Re: Up Eye Dry Fly Hooks

Post by Theroe » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:51 pm

Greenwell wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:36 pm
wsbailey wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:59 pm With the high interest in the Allcock hooks I find it surprising that, with so many fishing hook manufacturers, some company doesn't custom order reproductions. I really miss Gaelic Supreme for this reason.
I've been asking Mark Hamnett from Partridge for many years to produce reproductions of classic hooks. I've even given him samples of rare old hooks to consider. The problem really boils down to MOQ's; Minimum Order Quantities. MOQ's per pattern and size are something like 10,000 per SKU. That's a pretty big number for hooks with a limited number of buyers. When hooks were still handmade, the MOQ's were much smaller. Alan Bramley, past owner of Partridge, once quoted me prices on MOQ's of only 1000 of a style and size. Wish I had taken him up on it!

I find hooks endlessly fascinating and I've been collecting trout hooks for many years, mostly English brands. Mustads never did much for me and I could have bought huge quantities of them for next to nothing when the Japanese hooks began to dominate the market in the 1980's. I regret not buying up 94840, 94833, and 94842 in 10 - 18 as these are in great demand today, at least the original made in Norway hooks. It's interesting to see the demand for classic hooks now. Aside from Allcocks, no one seemed to want the old English hooks until just recently.
+1!
There is just something about an old handmade hook - a few years back,I bought a USB microscope for my MAC, and I have spent HOURS scrutinizing the closeup details.....it is fascinating, to say the least.

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Re: Up Eye Dry Fly Hooks

Post by Theroe » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:58 pm

ForumGhillie wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:58 pm
wsbailey wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:53 pm This might be interesting to those who like fishing hook history.

http://ronnlucassr.com/hook-information/old-hooks/
Bill, that is a wonderful link. Theroe will probably wet his pants. :lol: :lol:
um, i bought most everything Ron had..............
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Re: Up Eye Dry Fly Hooks

Post by wsbailey » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:18 pm

I saw Ron's hook collection (at least some of it) at the NJ fly tying show. Ronn Lucas bought his shop and his knowledge.

https://globalflyfisher.com/tie-better/ ... f-redditch

https://www.totalflyfisher.com/news/ite ... -cox-rawle
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