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I’ve gotta learn how to do this cast...

Tongariro Roll Cast

Ray, Howdy;

Looks interesting, please keep us posted on your progress .

hank

Will do, Hank.

Ray, That looks like a modified single hand spey cast with a haul. We used to use a "dump" cast that looked like you missed your cast and dumped your line almost at your feet. Then backcast and form a D loop, then forward cast. We could shoot a lot of line that way. Been a while since I practiced it though. Looks pretty similar.

Ron,

I was thinking the same thing. I started playing around with two-hand casting earlier this year, and noticed a similarity in the way the cast was being set up. Certainly looks like a useful cast to learn for areas with limited back cast room, and where distance is needed.

Do you think a weight forward line would be suitable, or would the technique require a double taper line? I'm guessing the minimum line weight of 5wt, is needed...

Ray, Howdy;

Sittin' here with my bag of popcorn ...

hank

Hank -

A large percentage of casting with my single spey was done this way when I wanted to swing wets. I also used it most of the time with my steelhead rod. I have used both a weight forward and a double taper. They will both work and it is really a matter of what your purpose is. the double taper will roll nicely and land softly, the forward taper will get you more distance but not as much finesse. I have used the double taper and this cast to fish larger dry flies. Ideally for this type of casting you want a head profile where the bulk is near the rear of the head of the line, long front taper and shorter rear taper. Rio and Wulff both make great lines for these type of applications in shorter weights.

I agree with what was just said about the lines. As far as the cast, however, it seems to me there is a lot of extra motion and line splashing involved. Why not just use a snake roll? The fly will be back in the water with a lot less fuss.
The only advantage I see to this cast is that you should be able to change direction more and get the fly a bit further upstream, if that is desirable in the situation.

For those of you who, like me, is/was not familiar with the "snake roll" cast ...